VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

ihl86 said:

I am not saying that it is not realistic that at some point Sophia could/would snap and have sex with someone. (Although that someone being a kid, Sam, Zac, not to even mention Dylan is much less realistic -but let's not diverge).
I am simply saying that even once that holding back comes down, a real world person would choose someone and have sex with them. If/when they get bored with that person they could choose another. Very few people sleep around with almost everyone that expresses interest all at once. With one today, with another tomorrow or maybe in the evening, go back to the first one the next day. Than with a woman, then another woman, because why not and so on.
Of course, in the end, this is the end goal of the game: "corrupting" Sophia so she does have various sexual activities with a lot of people, but it's a fine line from at least somewhat realistic to total fuck-fest like so many similar games (The one with Myriam's life or how it's called, the one with the mystery of Vaulihorn or something similar and so on).

And this is just to clarify, of course people gets divorces, people cheat. I have known people in real life that have cheated/are cheating for different reasons. I have known people in open policy marriages. none of the women fuck guys left and right. while they do have a lot of sex themselves, they are quite selective with who they fuck, and pretty constant. It is usually the guys that can't resist to jump from woman to woman.

I don't think I am over analyzing anything. I know it is just a game, at the moment I am enjoying the content it provide, in spite of the slow development speed. If I won't enjoy it in the future, I can skip it (like I don't even touch the Myriam one).
It's just when people say things like: in the real world she would have already done this and that, a real woman would not have denied herself if Dylan was sucking her boobs, she would have fucked him and so on I can't just get past it. It feels like these people have seen/played too much porn content and have a distorted view of reality.

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kimber700 said:

I asked some questions to L&P and got answered.

1. In the day 15, is there a chance to have Sophia a date with Dylan again while Liam watches a football game with Mr. Harris?
2. As a result of Sophia/Dylan part 1 and 2 incident, will Dylan keep begging Sophia a kiss, a handjob, a date, or else at home?
3. Did anyone (possibly Sam) witness Sophia and Dylan?
4. Will Sophia act like Sam's secret girl friend if they are together and apart from the others?

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Night Hacker said:

Okay, THIS... IS... FICTION... if it bothers you so much... QUIT PLAYING THE DAMN THING!!! Man... there you go on about REALISM again... it's a fucking PORN GAME... it's not REAL and probably would never BE REAL, it's why most people play the things. I would hate to see your reaction to Star Wars, you probably think the force is real, or complain because it isn't!

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ihl86 said:

I know it is just a game, at the moment I am enjoying the content it provide, in spite of the slow development speed. If I won't enjoy it in the future, I can skip it

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ihl86 said:

You don't need a story for realism, in the sense, this is how the real world is. But a good story, needs within the rules it establishes to be realistic and believable. This is the basis for any story, fantasy, sci-fi.
Porn, I think everybody reads or plays for different purposes.

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ihl86 said:

"You don't need a story for realism, in the sense, this is how the real world is." = A story doesn't have to respect real world rules. In that sense, a story doesn't need realism. But only in that sense.

The whole point was if we need realism, not if we need a story . And I was at least trying to express that what makes a story realistic, isn't if the real world is following the rules of the story. What makes a story realistic is if it follows it's own rules.
For example, I think Lord of the Rings is realistic. It follows the rules it establishes within its own world. If Frodo could fight and kill anyone and anything in it's path towards Mount Doom, that would not have been realistic. As he was an inexperienced hobbit with no battle experience and no special powers.
Does that mean anyone expects elves or orc or anything else from the books to be present in the real world? No.

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kimber700 said:

I asked some questions to L&P and got answered.

1. In the day 15, is there a chance to have Sophia a date with Dylan again while Liam watches a football game with Mr. Harris?
2. As a result of Sophia/Dylan part 1 and 2 incident, will Dylan keep begging Sophia a kiss, a handjob, a date, or else at home?
3. Did anyone (possibly Sam) witness Sophia and Dylan?
4. Will Sophia act like Sam's secret girl friend if they are together and apart from the others?

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Old Dog said:

I am surprised that people don't like the blackmailing stuff and if Sam/Sophia don't act like boyfriend/girlfriend when they are alone together what was the point of it?Or am I missing something here?

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kimber700 said:

I personally think Sam does not blackmail Sophia if he saw them. I expect a softcore mom-son couple dating like Amber-Sam/Dylan and Sophia-Dylan/Sam.

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Old Dog said:

I never meant that Sam would blackmail Sophia but I thought that at least in private they would act like boyfriend/gorlfriend

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Talcum Powder said:

I conitnue to despair at the frequency our developer completely misses an opportunity to take full advantage of the situations he's able to create. For example, considering Sophia's vocation, was this not THE PERFECT opportunity to give us a truly meaningful choice:

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C'mon all you haters and trolls and fans and faithful, be honest and tell me that wouldn't have been fucking epic.

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Old Dog said:

Nope because L&P is still holding back for some reason and even a little something extra with either Sam/Sophia or Dylan/Sophia or both would not of pushed it much further.
Besides Sophia does not like oral cream pies so I doubt that she likes the taste of it

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PaxHadrian17 said:

Everyone here has the right to express an opinion and we've had some great discussions on this thread with people who hold different points of view.

The repeated use of facepalms invites No discussion.

If someone facepalms a post making 5 different points, what exactly is the facepalm for? Is it for the entire post, points 1, 3 and 5 or some other permutation?

A facepalm is an emote only - Not an opinion because there has been no explicit statement for, against, in partial agreement with... etc.

I see a facepalm as the language of the lazy.

It is too often a tool someone uses to disagree with the discussion they cannot hope to counter with logic or facts.

Discussions have value, whether they result in agreement or end in an 'agree to disagree'; facepalms hold little value to/for me.

Cheers!!

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Talcum Powder said:

I think the fact that she doesn't like Liam's spunk makes this choice (or at least her considering it) so much more interesting - what if she's curious about whether it's just Liam and that she might like someone else's?

I'm not even sure we should be presented the choice and see the result, I just think it would have been amazing if Sophia, being a literature teacher, had that idea bounce through her mind, especially in the context and the gravity of what Hamlet is considering with his question.

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Talcum Powder said:

I conitnue to despair at the frequency our developer completely misses an opportunity to take full advantage of the situations he's able to create. For example, considering Sophia's vocation, was this not THE PERFECT opportunity to give us a truly meaningful choice:

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C'mon all you haters and trolls and fans and faithful, be honest and tell me that wouldn't have been fucking epic.

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lockerxx said:

maybe then sophie gives a blowjob to dylan or sam we got the option.

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Old Dog said:

I also think that if Sophia had of been in focus then the shock/horror on her face would of had a bettervisual inpact

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derek1957 said:

I agree. I thought that there were gobs of great renders in this scene, but if I could alter any of them it would have been to see her expression in focus on this one. I thought her feelings of "what have I done?" and "ick, what do I do with this goo?" were clear though.

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Dan5k74 said:

More news directly from L&P...

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